ChatGPR: Hudson Tansey
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Gene Fetty: [00:00:00] Hey, what's up guys? Gene Betty with a, a i Back with another chat. GPR session. Uh, today we've got Mr. Hudson Tansey. What up? Uh, dent Gents out of Houston, Texas. Uh, I mean, yeah, sure. Ish.
Houston
Gene Fetty: ish. Yeah. I'm north,
I'm north of the Woodlands people. Woodlands, Texas. People don't, you know, they know where Houston is, you know?
All right. But I'm about 45 minutes north.
Gene Fetty: Okay. Alright, perfect. Well, I'm in Pittsburgh, but we're, you know, 20 minutes south, half hour south, right? Yeah. So same thing. Same thing. So. Uh, Hudson, thanks for coming on. Uh, we're going to talk some glue pull repair, uh, a little bit of GPR. Uh, how long have you been glue pulling?
When did you start glue pulling? Right when you started doing
PDR? No, it's funny because whenever I first started glue pulling didn't exist and by who was who I was being trained by. Sure. This was 18 years ago. Okay. So, but it was about a year or two in We, uh, started messing around with, uh, glue pulling, and then we started getting, [00:01:00] uh, different, we actually used, uh, we were mobile.
So we started, we had, uh, the cigarette lighter that plugged in, you know, and then you'd finally, you'd get a car that were the cigarette light, the fuse for the cigarette lighters out and like, if you don't have any fuses to replace it with, then you're like, well crap, what do I do? And then, so we get started in the butane.
Gene Fetty: Oh yeah. I remember the butane, the butane, uh, glue guns. Yep. And then you'd go to fill them up and then the butane is cold and you got to like, let it settle down before you can fire it back up.
Yeah, dude. So. So, yeah, I started, so I would say probably, you know, been glue pulling for about 16 years now, you know, and getting a better and better and better every year.
Um, I mean, I remember, I remember whenever it started like glue pulling a body line was like, that will never happen. Getting a body line. You could never, you could never do that. Like. Fixing a dent on a body line was already like a skill that you tried to get when it came to pushing dents. Listen, there's still PR guys out
Gene Fetty: there that say you can't fix a dent on a body line.
Fake news. [00:02:00] You totally can fix a dent on a body line.
And I love those dent guys being in my area because I like, I make lots of money because those guys can't. Right. You know, so, but, uh, I can't tell you how many stories I've had people say like, Oh, it's on that line. So you can't do that. I'm like, Oh, okay.
Matter of fact,
Gene Fetty: I wrote that hood for replacement because that one dents on the body. Yeah.
Yeah.
Gene Fetty: Oh, man. I'll try it Let's see if we
can save it Yeah, but uh, but I remember there being a time where when a dent was on a body line in an inaccessible area I was like crap Are we going to be able to fix this right and it's great to see how glue pulling and the skills and learning and training and getting to the point where now We can glue pull by can get by a sharp body line Down here.
Gene Fetty: Perfect. So if you don't mind, yeah, share with us share with the audience your approach To glue pulling a body line.
Okay. Yeah, so if it's going to be a Now this isn't gpr. This is pdr. Absolutely. Okay, so [00:03:00] When gpr you have kind of a different approach. You're just trying to get it blockable When it comes to PDR, we want to get it perfect.
So, uh, what I'm going to say is for the PDR side, not for the GPR side. Right. So this is more PDR centered, um, let's call it
Gene Fetty: advanced gluepole repair, advanced gluepole. Right. Cause there's some, there's some body techs out there that blow my mind with what they're gluepoling. Oh yeah, absolutely. Well, let's not jam them in the PDR can.
We'll just call it advanced, advanced.
Yes. Um, But I'll say this just for the, for fun. These is the good thing about being a body man who can do advanced GPR is you don't have to cause you're always, you've always got a nice ability to block it. Cause getting painted anyways. Exactly. So I'm talking when we're getting a PDL where you got to, you don't have that half to make it.
Yes. And so what I do is I actually, so if I have a, if it's a sharp one. I'm gonna spread out that body line first. Okay. So if we have your body line and you got a sharp hack here, right? Okay. Like a chop straight? Yeah. A chop vertically through a horizontal body line. Yeah, because like that's where I've gotten to where I can glue, pull a chop on a body line and get it to 90 plus percent.
[00:04:00] That's soft to where like that's strong. Where a dent guy could probably maybe see like a wiggle or two there, but like. So I'm going to take my blending hammer, so I'm back further, and I'm going to make it to where that valley, that depth there is way less of a dark, deep, dark shadow. I'm going to make it where it's a lighter shadow, right?
So I know you're going straight down the body line, flattening the body line out left and right. Yes, exactly. And then what I'm going to do is I, uh, my go to for these is actually, uh, it's a convex square Laka tab. It's yellow. Is
Gene Fetty: that the one that it's sort of, it's, it's two sides and thick on the other two.
It's not thick. It's a little droopy boy. It kind of droops on the corners. I know, I know the tab. In fact, in our masterclass, Dylann, this is the tab. Yeah. Uh, that, that I kept calling the wrong color.
Oh, yeah. I kept
Gene Fetty: yellow and it's orange or orange and yellow, whatever
it was. Yeah. Actually, Hey, Dylann, since you're here [00:05:00] at the checkout, they have a knockoff of it.
And it's the blue tabs. It's usually, or can you grab it? It's the square one at the checkout. Yeah. The 1 ones. Yeah. So there's a knock and I can show you and I'll explain it here and then we'll put it on the camera for you guys. So what happens is it has a little droop to it. So what that means is, so if this is my, my droop side, and then I have this side is completely high.
Right. So you might see where I'm going. I'm going to take my beat of glue and go from droopy side to droopy side in a straight line. Okay. And then I'm going to put that straight line on the following the crease. Correct. And the body line. Let's see. Oh, no, no, no. That's a rectangle. It's a rectangle. This is another good one that lock.
So this is like a care point makes a knockoff of these. Um, Big surprise. Um, but, uh, the Locka brand L A K A is going to be out of Germany. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the Germans, they,
Gene Fetty: they, they know how to, and I think, I think black plague is the [00:06:00] distributor in the U S so dead
rat tabs. com for these tabs. Exactly.
And so where that droop is. So, cause I'm going to have my strongest pull on that body line and a little bit of a weaker pool above and below it. Correct.
Gene Fetty: So you're running the thick, harder pole. Laterally Yes. Following the line. The weaker pull. Yeah. Right. To, to let it flex up. Perfect.
Yeah. So on the sides, Hey, I'm gonna come, can I, can I get up here and, yeah.
All right. So let me know when it, when we're focused here. All right. Y'all see that? Yeah. Up just a little. Up here? Here. Just down. Just a tiny mm-hmm . Perfect. Okay. So this side droops. This side droop. Okay. And so what happens is. I'm going to put a bead of glue across that from this point to this point.
And then, so whenever I have my crease, remember I have a body line going this way and increase going this way. I'm going to put this on the crease. So the [00:07:00] hardest pulling part is going to be right here in the middle and it's going to be right on that body line. And then, so I'm going to get a strong pull on the body line and a little bit of a weaker pull above and below it.
And with it being spread out, And then pulling a weaker pool above and below, but a stronger pool in there. It allows it to really start to move. Yes. And then, um, that that's a gets, gets you
Gene Fetty: a lot of progress, right? You're almost allowing the, uh, body line, the metal to fold back to the body line. Yes.
Yes.
So I'll do that. And then. In GPR, you're not as worried, right? Just getting it close. You're getting it close. So glazeable. So at a GPR, you don't attack the body line. You do a butt right above it and right below it. And you pull the majority of it up. Guide coat, spray, primer, go, right? Yeah. So, um, but for PDR, this is, that's you're loving that tab.
This is my guy. I've been for years. That's what I've been doing. And then another way I [00:08:00] can do it as well is, um, Is if it's being really, cause this, this material is good. It grabs hard, but nothing grabs like an ice material, right? So ice is snappy. Yeah. And so it's every once in a while I'll get an oversized tab, an oversized tab, and I'll just grip and rip the crap out of it and just pull it all up high and then reshape it back into it to where it, that body line comes up with that grip and rip.
Right. And I use my knock, knocking down and. Yeah. To
Gene Fetty: reshape that body line. That makes perfect sense. So that's, that's a great point. Uh, and that's a skill that a lot of people miss, right? Everybody thinks pull, pull, pull, or even on the PDR side, push, push, push, learning to. Uh, accurately and efficiently work your knockdowns and blending hammers, whichever you prefer is a whole skill that one, I think doesn't get enough attention in the space.
PDR or GPR. Yes. Of a two having the ability to over pull and then reshape, [00:09:00] Accurately. Right. The, the idea with the glue pull is we can't get access to the back. Yeah. Right. So if you can over pull and essentially create that big high spot, then you can learn to work precisely more like you would do precision pushing instead of precision pushing your precision tapping
and reshaping that
Gene Fetty: way.
Exactly. Yep. Yeah. I would a hundred percent agree with you. I would say when you're beginning training, if you're a beginner, um, knocking down is as important as, uh, As finding that dent. So like I have, I have little things that whenever I've trained and I've trained in the past that I've done where I'll put an, I'll put an X on a panel and my trainee has to go in there and has to make a high spot on each spot in the middle.
And then they have to go and knock down those high spots. They may, uh, and that's like, they'll, they'll find the X pretty quick, but then they're like, I'm trying to knock down that. Yeah. And it's, it's a skill. And I, I think knocking down is just as important as blending. [00:10:00] Yes. Knocking down. I would say maybe even more important than blending.
Knocking down is, is when you're close up and you're really in the nitty gritty there. The nitty gritty. You know? Yeah. Like that's where you really want your knockdown work. Right. But you, there comes a time, like, especially when you're finishing a dent, like you need to be back and that's where that blending hammer, you know, that, that, that longer site, that longer vision.
Exactly. Exactly. Like my first dude, my first like seven or eight years of dent repair, I did not have, I didn't even know blending existed. Oh, me either. It's, I started to know
Gene Fetty: too. So just a couple of years before you, uh, Yeah, I had heard of blending. Like my mentor was an old school whiz guy. Yeah. Uh, and they talked about blending, but I had no idea what it was like, I don't know.
I'm just getting a hammer in the panel with
a hammer. Is this doing something? I don't know what vibration I have screwed up now. I've gotten to a point where like all my wholesale accounts, dude, like if there's a dent, that's the size of like a dime or smaller. Like I can blend it to where it's imperceptible.
Right. [00:11:00] You know, um, to, to average everyday person, lots of practice and like, yeah, with blending. You know, I'll turn that dent like, you know, like it's wholesale. Right. We're, you know, for a wholesale account, a lot of time, not for my luxury stuff, but like for like some, like, you know, they have like a, a Kia or a Dodge that comes through and they just need to look better, the 10 foot rule.
Right. Right. Like, man, you can turn that dime size dent into just a little shallow wave with blending and like, you're done in a matter of. The time it would take me to put a window guard in a window wedge and I've already got it blended out Yeah, so absolutely efficiency efficiency efficiency, right? So that's the name of the game exactly and then glue pulling has made me far more Efficient.
Well, like you
Gene Fetty: said for you with your trainer glue pulling didn't exist. Mm hmm I've been glue pulling since oh two we had a dent out kit at the paintball where I was at But it was a last resort. The last thing we wanted to do, we would do anything not to not glue pool. Yeah, yeah, right. It was, it was without a doubt.
So I like that lock a tab approach on the body line. [00:12:00] I, uh, my approach, very similar. But it's not mine, but right. Yeah. Well, that's I'm only I'm working. I'm trying to be as good as you See, he's called the glue roo, but you know, well, that's just self proclaimed. Yeah, it's self proclaimed I have a sticker though, like being a legend like a peel exactly Yes, exactly Uh, so the 10 millimeter wide solid blue Dead center crease tab, right?
So that's about this wide. Yeah, but I modify it Okay, so I actually chop it down to about that You Size, okay. Yeah, actually the same size as the head straight down just cut it straight down Yeah, yeah, and it creates almost a square dead center crease tab. Yeah, so it's basically that same move Even more defined
which is weird that they don't already do that because in the skinny boys they have Yeah, they have a smaller version.
Correct. And then they have the longer version. Right. And why they don't do that
Gene Fetty: with probably a new mold, but I've shown
Chris that tab. I'm like, this is a great Yeah. Modification. [00:13:00] Chris, stop being a dummy and just make the tab. All right. Just listen to Gene. Okay. But yeah, very similar approach. I will
Gene Fetty: also take, uh, just when I'm trying to finish it out, you're sort of getting, uh, soft.
I'll take just a regular good old fashioned. They have fixes for that nowadays, Gene. Yeah, I've heard that. The millennials seem to be having an issue there. Gen X is all good, but you guys had to come up with something new. That's great. Yeah.
You opened the door. I love it.
Gene Fetty: Um, I will actually even take a dead center tab.
Mm
hmm.
Gene Fetty: And put that shaft right over the body line when I'm just trying to finish it off. Mm hmm. Right? Yeah. And. Because that the dead center pulls to the shaft.
Yeah,
Gene Fetty: put it right over there. And man, it'll, it'll finish off a lot of body
lines. Really nice. So, I mean, this is total like, uh, what's, what's the thing where you're tuning your own horn?
That's where I think the tornado tabs are really gonna correct. Where I think they're going to shine is in that motion that you just did. Yeah. Um, well, since, since that's a great [00:14:00] segue,
Gene Fetty: why don't we talk about these new tornado tabs, uh, designed by you, right? And in collaboration with
Kiko, so yeah, Kiko's got some great, incredible engineers there.
And I had this idea for years and finally, you know, um, I bothered, I bothered them enough about it. So we're like, dude, I'll put my money where my mouth is. Like if it doesn't work, whatever, I'm out. Right. Right. But I would love to try this out. And so we tried it and luckily, uh, it was successful. So essentially what we're having is we have a dead center tab, a dead center pool with essentially a longer life expectancy.
Okay. But also some are proclaiming a little bit of a stronger more tight pool as well Yes, I'm experiencing that but I'm biased because I'm the one who invented it So we we
Gene Fetty: experienced that too, right? We did the torture video for you. Yeah, I had to break it couldn't break it Yeah, Bennett and that was even taking a five pound slide hammer.
Yeah, which [00:15:00] is crazy heavy, especially for it Was that ten millimeters? This is a ten millimeter, right? Yes, especially for a ten millimeter tab a five pound hammer And instead of pulling straight, uh, right. Leaning it off to the side and almost pulling in an arc to try to to break it. If he dies, he dies.
Yeah. Um, well, we actually, the first person to send me, like, we didn't say this, like, I don't know if anyone saw but the first person Yeah. I saw Brandon Reyes. Brandon Reyes. Like, he, he just messaged me, he goes, Hey dude, I finally broke one. And I was like, you're the winner. And we gave, uh, Kiko gave him a, uh, a new mini lifter.
The one of the 60, 60 anniversary? Yeah. All white ones like, yeah, because I was like, Hey, dude, first one to break it, like, I haven't been able to break it like, you're getting a mini lifter. Yeah. That's, and that's awesome. It was, it was really cool. That's really cool to be
Gene Fetty: able to do that. So, so we, in that video, in the torture video, now this is nerding out, like, this is like, yes, it pulls, yes, it pulls a high spot, but when you get the light [00:16:00] down and you're looking at it critically next to a standard dead center, 10 millimeter ish pool, as scientifically as we could, like same conditions, same pool temperature, uh, locked in the, I think we'd lock the robo to only pull so far.
Uh huh. And when you look, the tornado tab did have a noticeably at a nerd
level. Yeah. Yeah. Tighter pull. And that's where I think on a body line, these are really going to shine for you. Like finishing out that and getting that tight, tight pull. Yep. Um, so we're going to have five different sizes. Every size is going to be a different color.
So, so here's a bump in a set. How did you come up with five sizes in Hudson? Oh, I don't know. Whenever you have a tornado, how many different categories do you have? Five, five. So we have five different sides, F one through F five, right? And every single size is going to be a different color with the gradient of a tornado.
So I, and it's going to go from clear to white to light gray, dark gray, black, and they're all [00:17:00] ice. All ice material, all ice material. So we're going to, we're doing that and people are probably gonna be upset because they are the color of the floor they're working on, but you
Gene Fetty: got to do what you got to do to solve more times.
Yeah, exactly. You're not going to break them. So I got to make them where you lose them. So I buy more, you know, but, um, but no, I just, I'm, I'm geeking out here in the sense of like, if I'm going to have a tornado. Tab like it looks like a tornado that I'm going to do the color of a tornado Uh, the wonderful people here at Anson are actually working with me to create a tornado glue.
Oh cool that uh, That I want strong and fast Right. Right. And so in the, in the color, it just tears through like a tornado. Yeah. It's strong. And so I said, I want the fastest glue that sets, like I put a tab on by the time I put the tab on and I come over and I grab my puller to pull it or to, to yank it.
It's ready to go. Nice. And I'm testing it right now and I'm having very, very good results. Great. I'm just waiting for that. What we're really waiting for is the [00:18:00] dead of summer. Right now it's, it's performing perfect. Well, this is 80 degrees. This is glue pool. Well, no, this is this not in Texas. So right now in 80 degree weather, it's, it's a, it's, it's a freight train.
I love it. Right. And it's fast, strong and fast. That's what I want. So, uh, but we, we got to wait until it really gets to the dead of a summer, like a hundred degrees and see how it starts performing there. But, um, I say all that because I'm sticking with the theme of like, our, our glue is going to be the color of what, uh, A tornado kicks up.
All right. All right. Well, let's go, you know, just have fun with it. Um, So yeah, and just a couple more things we'll be doing nice. Yeah, so we'll have that and uh, Yeah, what so what sizes are they gonna the seven millimeter nine millimeter eleven millimeter seven eleven No, seven nine eleven thirteen fifteen.
Okay, nice. So, uh, because the The fifth, you'll, you'll think the 15 millimeter is probably too big. Like why would a hell guy need that? But the [00:19:00] thing that people don't realize, I don't know if you cover this, um, is when you're glue pulling on aluminum, you want a bigger tab over the dent. You want to, so if you've got a dime size dent, you want a nickel size tab on aluminum, and I think these are going to be even more successful with it because of how tight it is doing that pool.
Right. So.
Gene Fetty: Um, well, that's part of, so pulling your more stubborn metals, like your aluminums and your steels, you need to oversaw the surface areas. The magic and glue pull repair. Yep. Uh, so when we get to a more stubborn metal, right, that's, it's early and it's actually the first step of the six seasons and check is knowing your substrate so you can know, uh, uh, what level of aggression to come out at.
Exactly. Uh, you need to be able to over pull. The metal to affect change. It's more stubborn. So you have to push it farther in this case, in our case, pull it farther to get it to a level level. Yep. Yes, exactly. So that's, uh, [00:20:00] that's where the bigger tabs are for oversizing on stubborn metal.
Yeah. And I've already, you know, like, well, no, these are blue because these are, these were our pilot run.
That's where, and we're selling them just because. We had such great success and we had such a big run of them. We're like, well, let's just go ahead and sell them. But it's a great
Gene Fetty: tab. And that's actually around my favorite size. Like,
yeah, yeah. I would say the finishing, this is a 10 mil. Um, but we're eventually going to be having like the nine mills really that sweet spot.
Um, and then the seven millimeters, you know, those are the really, really small ones that. Honestly, you're going to use those seven mils on a like Subarus and like Tahoe quarter panels where you get that soft, soft metal. And you don't want to like crazy over pull anything,
Gene Fetty: right? Well, it's the getting down to the seven millimeters you're starting.
Well, I'm not starting. I mean, since dead centers come out, we're getting to the point where we're, we're almost to where you can pull. As accurately as you can push. Right. And that's, that's part of what that literally is a game changer in blue pole is, [00:21:00] is being able to pull as sharp as you can push because forever glue pole is a blunt move right now.
It's dead center technology, edge flex technology, tornado design. You can get in and
pull more precisely. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's just getting better and better. Um, but yeah, that's a. That's
Gene Fetty: it. Awesome. So, before we call the interview a wrap, what would be, uh, I'm going to ask a couple questions. What is your biggest pet peeve when it comes to other technicians glute pulling?
What's the pet peeve that you see them doing and you're like, man, that's just wrong?
I'm gonna be honest with you. I, I just, I'm not that guy anymore. Wow. Really? Yeah. Like as far as like just pet peeves of how someone repairs a dent. Cause there's guys every time, like I would never fix the dent that way.
Right. But as long as they're getting the end result. Sure. And I guess I came this way because there [00:22:00] was a time where, like I was at MTE this year. And I'm over here just doing knock, knocking down. This dude, I don't even know. He's like, Oh, if you want to really knock it down correctly, you should do. I'm like, bro, I've been in this 18 years.
Like, let me knock down, right? Like I can fix a dent pretty, pretty good. Pretty lady split. But, uh, as far, I can't and that's coming from like, I was training for Kiko. So I know like the proper procedures. Um, I do, you know what, I'll give you an answer. I think my pet peeve is, uh, people are so excited about lateral tension that they're doing lateral tension, but they don't need lateral tension.
It's like just freaking get in there and get it done, right? The amount of time it has taken you to set up your lateral tension. When it didn't really need it because I get it. It's a new thing and it's exciting. Sure. Um when it's like It didn't really need that. So I I think right now people are just excited about it So I can't get too upset about them But uh, i've got a lot of other pet peeves in other areas but that's why I thought I was like I thought this was gonna be a good one and you're like i'm a changed person No, i'm [00:23:00] not changed.
I just like if you get the end result It's how I run my business. Like, I don't tell, like, whenever I'm speaking to my, my admin and my videographer or anything, I'm like, I'm not going to tell you how to do it. Like, as long as the end result is good, like I'm not going to control. You're not going to micromanage.
I'm not going to micromanage. Like, I hired you for a job and as long as the end result is both the end result that we want, then I don't care how you get point B through Y. Okay. Right? Just as long as Z is, point Z is what we need it. So glue pulling, like whatever, dude, as long as you get to the end result.
Gene Fetty: All right.
I'll give you that. Okay. Then
Gene Fetty: what would be your number one tip for somebody trying to improve their glue pull game?
Uh, improve your knockdown and blending game. Okay. That is, that's solid advice. Yeah. Like, I, like, if you want to get better at glue pulling, you better get better with a blending hammer immediately.
And then knock downs. I think blending hammer, especially, um, cause allow, because if you can pull up that mass and then get far back and then really just [00:24:00] reshape that back to how you need it, right. That's going to like make you go quick because you got to think about it. Like I'm almost to the point where I will just reverse the dent.
And then, and then blend it down. Right. Because that's faster. Sure. Because with the knocking down, I have more control over how that metal is going to move versus glue pulling. I'm you're essentially pulling blind every time because the metal that you're moving is underneath the glue in the tab. You can't see how much metal is moving up.
You know the best,
Gene Fetty: the only thing you can really do is study the reflection around your tab. Yeah. But. You can't see under the, you're absolutely
right. So I'll just, I'll grip, rip and get it high. And then I'll just blend it down flat. And that has made my glue pulling speed just go up astronomically because I can control how hard I hit.
I can see what the metal is doing under my blending camera and I can work more precisely. So I'm almost to the point, like, especially doing wholesale and I'm being, need to be quick, [00:25:00] grip, rip, let it get high and bam.
Gene Fetty: So guys, that is. It's PDR or really advanced GPR advice. If you're learning GPR, if you're just starting out, very important to learn how to knock down accurately, but do not grip and rip because it is a much easier skill.
And the beginning is a bill to lift gently two or three times over trying to handle a big grip and rip high spot.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. This is like. I would argue that knocking down and blending a very high spot, like a special high pinch spot is almost more difficult than glue than glue pulling, uh, big spots.
Like, yeah, there's no arguing about it. That's a, that's a hundred percent. And so that's why I say like if you're starting out and just start getting good at blending. Yeah. Blending
Gene Fetty: and knocking
down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, but yeah, just having that [00:26:00] with that blending though, having that extra foot or two away really allows you to see more of what the metal is doing.
That's what I love about it.
Gene Fetty: You have a bigger site picture of the, of the panel. Yeah. That's also why I like the black Swan so much, especially when people are learning. Yeah. It does something similar to you're exactly right. Yeah. Blending hammer. It gives you that you're stretched out and then you've got another six inches of the black Swan.
You're back and it gives you a better sight picture. And we
have an extra six inches is really all you need. That's what I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. But, and I've also got little T Rex arms, so, you know, like I'm, I'm, I like, yeah, I like to get far away.
Gene Fetty: Right. I appreciate, I can appreciate that. Yeah. Good deal. All right, guys.
So Hudson, where can they find the
tornado tabs? Uh, I mean, just go to Kiko. You'll find them there. They'll eventually be everywhere, everywhere. Once we. We finally finalized, I finally finalized with the engineers, the final design and dimensions and size and all that kind of stuff. And so now we're just getting them into production.
Perfect. [00:27:00] So to
Gene Fetty: start KikoTabs. com for these tabs.
Yeah,
Gene Fetty: pretty much. Yeah. I think Anson
carries them. That
Gene Fetty: has the. Some of the pilot run as well right now. So that's good. Nice. Uh, and then your social media, if they want to check you out, if they want to see your PDR company and some of the really entertaining videos that you're now putting out.
Yeah. What's your website or your
handle? Yeah. I mean, the website is dentgents. com. That's plural. Uh, gents like gentlemen, uh, and then, yeah, everything is at dent gents, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, all over social at dent gents. That's perfect. Well,
Gene Fetty: Hudson, thanks for sitting down and chatting GPR with us.
Great, uh, information. Some great tips, right? If you guys didn't learn something watching this, you're a really solid glue puller, just stupid or maybe you're like, get a, get a life. There's the old Hudson. That's better. Well, thanks man. We really appreciate you.
Yeah. Thanks for having [00:28:00] me.
