#9 All Access Jack Bucknell
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Gene Fetty: [00:00:00] Hey, what's up guys? Gene Fetty with the Automotive Appearance Institute back at you with another episode of our all access podcast. Today we have a special in studio guest. The one and only Jack Bucknell. Jack, welcome to the show.
Jack Bucknell: Good to be here, man.
Gene Fetty: Good to see you. Uh, so literally just got in. We just, uh, what'd you land like?
Um, an hour and a half ago, something like that. Yeah. An hour and a half ago. Drove out, grabbed you. Yep. We wanted to come in and get a show going. Um, we're going to do our first. So, so as we're building this show, I want to make it like what I want to do. Like I don't want to be bored. I don't want to always have to talk about the same thing.
Yeah. So we're doing a bunch of different styles of show. Not exactly like relay, but along the same lines, like we do whatever we want. I've heard of that podcast. It's pretty good. It's a pretty good show. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be a hub. Share the show. Share the show. Uh, so, [00:01:00] we're going to do an interview. Okay. I love to hear stories.
I think I know most of your story. Uh, and I met you pretty early on in your career. Yeah. Uh, and we've become great friends, uh, over those years. Yeah. Uh. And everybody I think now knows who Jack is. We want to go through and like, how did Jack get to be here? How did, how did you get to PDR and everything like that?
So that's what this interview is going to be.
Jack Bucknell (2): All right. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good.
Gene Fetty: Good deal. So, uh, let's jump right into it. Uh, Dylann, do you have any opening questions or is there anything pressing you want to know about how Jack got here?
Dylann Jaimes: I actually do have a question, Jack, how did you get into PDR?
Jack Bucknell: Okay, so how I got into PDR, so first off, I'm Jack Bucknell, Sioux Falls Dent Repair. Um, so I got into PDR in approximately right around 2010. Um, so at the time I was a, uh, technician at a local body shop. A, uh, worked with [00:02:00] some really great guys over there. Um, and I Basically had saw or at the time seen, I should say, um, saw some painless dent repair guys come in, do some work.
Um, one specifically on my boss's, uh, uh, 74 Plymouth Barracuda. Um, anyways, long story short, damage came out. Uh, it looked okay. It was, you know, you can still kind of see it, um, you know, you know, better than painting the fender essentially is what I'm getting at. Um, the next time, uh, we had a different guy do some painless dent repair for us, um, and he did an.
Absolutely phenomenal job. Like we're talking like what it should be. Yeah, exactly. So, so let's put it this way. So we get the truck back. I remember it was, uh, like a yellow Ram pickup, a couple of small dents in the fender, not no problem at all for any of us skilled technicians now. And we're so all three of us are out in the body shop.
So I'm at the time paint body work kind of, well, that's that time I was doing body works. We had Two body men and a painter and you know, the whole crew essentially out there looking at this vehicle [00:03:00] and we're both out there just Hawkeye and trying to find, you know, we're, we're them body guys just trying to find any type of it.
So you were one of those body guys? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, not, not to like discount it, but just to like, Where are we at here with this level of guy that's doing this stuff? Like not, not looking at it in a bad way, but just like, all right, we've seen this before. Eh, it looks different. Dent slightly better.
So on and so forth. Anyways, we're out there looking at it and can't find the dents in the fender. Like three quarter size, maybe half dollar dents. Just gone. Gone. Completely gone. Again, what true high level PDR. Exactly. And I was absolutely floored. Because at the time I had thought. PDR was, you know, make the dent look 80, 90 percent, maybe 95.
I'm not, I'm talking not, you know, not to the level that I'm seeing here. And I'm going like, so we're all three skilled people in the field and we can't see the damage. Like, we're trying to [00:04:00] find an imperfection. And again, that being that, yeah, I mean, essentially that body guy and couldn't find it. And I was like, Oh my God, I can't.
I can't believe this. So I was like, that's, that's amazing. So anyways, uh, uh, took another vehicle over to that same technician shop at the time. Um, I had a kind of a discussion with him, found out he actually knew my parents from way back in the day, like knew of me, but didn't recognize my face. He hadn't seen me for, you know, 20 some years, a little kid, been to some of my old birthday parties or something like that.
So I'm like, Whoa, small world. And he's like, You should get hooked up at the time. He had all a one tools.
Gene and Jack: So we still use those still great tools. I
Jack Bucknell: still have them. I still have all the original set and everything and still use a lot of their tools. Um, he just kind of pointed me in the direction of, you know, Hey man, you should get checked out, you know, check out some of these tools.
Cause at the time I was like, That's a really cool skilled trade. I want to be able to fix dents to where you can't tell that it's there. And anyway, so keep trying Jack, you'll get there someday. Yeah.[00:05:00]
It's been a long road. So anyways. So, uh, anyways, so, um, you know, went over to a shop a couple different times and kind of pushed around on a hood and he gave me a couple small pointers, but ultimately I kind of took it under my own wing and, and was going literally back to, well, the shop I work in now at my dad's shop and we're, was fixing dents, you know, after hours after work and stuff like that.
And anyways, persistence, keep pushing, keep doing it. Lots of, you know, And I'm getting my ass kicked, you know, by a den all the time. Essentially
Gene Fetty: self taught really? Yeah.
Jack Bucknell: I mean, I would say yes. Yeah. So I never went in and got any professional training. I never sat down with a trainer. Um, you know, uh, so kind of fast forwarding, um, after I was in the dealership, um, I had a couple of hail techs.
One specifically is still a very good friend of mine. He kind of came over and saw me fixing some hail at the time and was kind of like, Oh, you know, Well, why are you doing it this way, you know, like very questioning in a good way. And I'm like, well, you know, I got this tool and I'm from this angle. He's like, [00:06:00] well, why don't you take that tool and use it this way?
And I'm like, Oh yeah, because I never thought of that. Yeah. Cause I don't have any experience in doing that kind of stuff, especially hail at the time. Um, and just really kind of ran with it and kept going. The rest is history. I mean, that's kind of how I got into it. So what year, what year would that have been to 2010?
So I remember buying my first set in 2010 and my first glue pulling kit. I still have, I still have the box. I just found the box from it originally. Uh, another one from a one tools, um, pdr tool. com. Yup. Pr tool. com. Shout out to John Maria. Yup. Yup. Uh, great people. Um, and that would have been, um, 2010, maybe 2011.
Okay. I hated glue pulling. Hated group pulling at that time, dude, I still have all the original worth tabs. The, uh, you know, the mini, the regular mini lifter works fine. Um, but just, you don't know what you did. Well, obviously at the time we didn't have anything that we have now. I mean, with, you know, I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole, but with all the different [00:07:00] stuff, now I group pull
Gene Fetty: a ton of stuff, even, even when I'm talking and teaching, like I talk about that, where it's like, In the beginning it was like we would do anything, even just slam a hole in it.
Yep. To not have to glue pool ab. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, like 20 some odd years ago that it was that inefficient now.
Right.
Gene Fetty: You're like, I'm not gonna take those two seven millimeter bolts out to get that tail. I'll just, it, it's a double holding off. Yeah. No, it's done a complete 180. Yeah. With, with what you can do and how far glue pull has come.
So. Started in a body shop. Were you a body tech or a painter or like an auto? I
Jack Bucknell: started, uh, in the auto body field in 2007, fresh out of high school. And then from there I went from basically the floor sweeper to the painter. So all the way up, basically got to the painter and stuff like that. Um, in about, uh, you know, just, and just eventually figured out that, you know, I wanted to pursue different avenues and I thought [00:08:00] that PDR would be a good.
Was a good fit at the time And then I got a call to go work at a local dealership in Sioux Falls And as a PDR as a full time PDR tech It was very it was a really difficult decision because I absolutely love the guys that I worked for I love the shop that I work for Um, they're all friends on like a family level.
Like they, they, they come to a family event very tight. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I mean, I was literally texting the body man earlier this morning and I saw my old boss last weekend. So like, and I go, and I go ice fishing with all of them. So regularly every year. So if you
Gene Fetty: haven't seen Jack's ice fishing rig, I mean, it's an apartment complex.
Yeah. It's, it's serious. Yeah. Lights. That's got to make it to woo life.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah.
Gene Fetty: So I want to go back to the body shop and now that you're 14, 13, 14 years into your PDR career, uh, as glue pole [00:09:00] has changed, right. And you know, seven, 2017, 2018, when it really started making a big push into collision, we've seen some really spectacular, uh, body men. Uh, that have embraced glue pole, that that has really, truly been a stepping stone for them to move into PDR going back to you right before glue pole made that, that bridge available, do you think that having body experience and knowing that like.
I hear it all the time from body man is like, man, I could have that in mud already. Do you think that helped you, uh, or hurt you knowing how you could traditionally fix a dent, uh, versus PDR. So for me, I came out of detailing, so I couldn't, I couldn't body work a dent. I didn't have a fallback. So it was either succeed [00:10:00] or, or die, right.
So et cetera, fail, but I feel like a lot of body men, you know, Or like, I could just, I could just do it this way. And they use that as an out. They kind of, kind
Jack Bucknell: of rough it out, essentially. Right.
Gene Fetty: And they stop there and that good enough is never good enough. It's not PDR. It's more like the first guy than, than the second guy you saw.
Absolutely. Would you, or maybe, maybe not, was it a hindrance or answer that, but then what advice would you give to a body tech today that may be thinking about trying to pursue A career in
PDR,
Jack Bucknell: uh, don't give up persistence would be the biggest thing. Um, you know, you're going to get, you're going to hit a lot of times where you'll go through downfalls of, ah, this glue isn't sticking.
This den isn't coming out, you know, uh, you know, dealing with locked pressure would be a specific thing, especially in the auto body world where you're getting big damage, um, where you're pulling, you're pulling really hard and it's not moving. Um, and that's just the thing. Um, [00:11:00] I would say just stick with it.
It, it, that's part of the struggle. I mean, with anything, I mean, you know, going back to what we said earlier, real AF, like he talks about that a lot in that podcast of, you know, just perseverance, keeping at it, keeping, you know, keeping the, you know, um, pushing through the, the times where stuff doesn't go smooth and that's just, don't quit, don't quit, don't quit, don't give up, uh, essentially.
So, um, you know, um, and you know, everything that's, you know, You know, worthwhile is worth fighting for and continuing to do exactly. So, I mean, this, this industry is a perfect example of that. I mean, I, I mean, before I got into this, there's no way I would have been like, Hey, uh, you want to let go out to Pittsburgh and hang out with your friend and then, you know, go do all these adventures.
And now I'm shooting a podcast, like, right, right. Like, you know, like if I would have given up on dense at the beginning, Wouldn't be here. Exactly. I wouldn't be doing this. I wouldn't have woo life. You know? So
Gene Fetty: Dylann is still
Jack Bucknell: in
Gene Fetty: college. So when she has a question, she puts her hand up instead of just [00:12:00] chiming in.
Dylann Jaimes: Well, I don't want to just interrupt the conversation. Oh, no, absolutely. Go ahead. That's your job. Yeah. Well, no, but I just, you know, I want to be respectful. Let you guys finish your thought, but know that like I have like, Hey, it's me. Don't forget me. No, not don't. You know what I mean? Um, how many podcasts do you think you've been on?
I was looking at your Sioux Falls dent repair website yesterday and the about us section. I haven't
Jack Bucknell: updated all of the when I've been in them. Um, I was actually trying to update some stuff today at the airport and couldn't get into my website. So anyways, um, but well, PDR college, I've been on there at least twice, maybe even a third time.
Oh man, I'm on dent nerds. I have my own podcast. I've been on Dance and Dreams, I've been on RWO, I've been on Shuddy's podcast, I've been on, uh, I mean it's gotta be pushing
Dylann Jaimes: Ginger Bros?
Jack Bucknell: Yeah, I've been on that, yep, Ginger Bros, [00:13:00] uh, probably 8 to 12 if I had to guess. Nice. I would think. That's awesome.
Dylann Jaimes: That's wild.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah. Well, that's a really good question. Now I want to figure it out. So yeah, just say woo a lot. So, you know, it happens. So
Dylann Jaimes: just come up with a slogan and you'll be famous in like no time.
Gene Fetty: Well, that's why we had the glue sticker made. I needed something to stick. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, and it stuck well, I guess it did.
Yeah. And if you're not sure how to make it stick, GPR masterclass. com will teach you how to stick
Dylann Jaimes: nice, subtle plug there. You
Gene Fetty: like that? Absolutely. Just got to roll with it. Perfect. Um, So that don't give up. Like I tell people there's no replacement for metal time. Like you just have to pay your dues.
Yeah. You can watch,
Jack Bucknell: you can watch a million videos on YouTube. I mean, uh, plug for, uh, dent time, uh, real world PDR. Both of those are great online training courses. Um, but getting, you know, physically working on a panel and just. Pushing dents, pulling dents, glue [00:14:00] pulling dents, all that stuff. Nothing is going to replace that.
I mean, that, that's essentially kind of how I started. I was watching Toledo and Toledo. So Dentime, Mike Toledo's and Sal Contreras with DentExpert. I was watching him, his, both of their videos in 2010. Yeah, I bought all of Sal's DVDs. Dude, I was, I was, DVDs? Like I remember, I remember, yeah, DVDs. DVDs. What are those?
They're not that old, but I didn't say VHS. Yeah, right? Yeah, Betamax. Yeah, but anyways, um, so that was one thing in 2010, like before, like I remember literally watching some of Toledo's first videos where he would do vlogging and go like, Is PDR a good fit for you? And I'm like, Oh, hell yeah. Like at the time I remember literally I'd come home from work.
So working all day in a body shop, I'd go into the back shop of now the shop I work at and be working on a hood, fixing dents on my buddy's, uh, what was it? A Ford Focus hood, which sucked. Um, and a, and then watching Toledo's videos and sales [00:15:00] videos after hours. And at the time I know like at the, the, uh, my, uh, Again, at the time girlfriend absolutely hated it, you know, like I was just fully immersed in all of this, um, and obviously, you know, I stuck with it and she left.
So that's fine. So, but, uh, anyway, so that was a big thing for me is watching, you know, like I said, Toledo and sales videos of seeing. What can be done pushing the limits. And that was 14 years ago. Right. So now it's not even that's changed so much. Comparable. I mean, it's huge. Yeah. Um, and like I said, watching, um, watching that stuff and, you know, the, it, it's just gonna be, uh, it, it's, it's a struggle.
I'm not gonna lie, but you just have to push through it. Well,
Gene Fetty: and that, I think that would bring me to my second piece of advice would be like, first don't quit. Yeah. But two, you almost have to be obsessed like that to Yes. Push, absolutely. To push through the difficulties you're gonna have to become proficient at PDR.
You have to, you have to want it so bad. You have to want it like, or you will just, you're like, I pick dents over my [00:16:00] girlfriend. Don't actually do that. I did not check dents over my wife. That might be a little too far, but Jack can be a little obsessive. Uh, but no, seriously, you do almost need to be. Uh, obsessed with it and go completely all in to, to push through those, those difficult times.
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, how long did you, so started at the body shop, self trained, and then you got a job offer at this dealership. How long, uh, how long did you stay with the dealership in
Jack Bucknell: 2014? I started at the dealership full time. So I was, you know, let's just say three, let's just say three, four years of, of, Pushing, you know here and there and it was very minimal.
I'm not I'm not gonna beat around the bush It was very like, you know working here and there brought my tools to work. Maybe we would kind of rough a den out Very minimal it really picked up for me in 14 when I started at the dealership to where it was like Here's a cart of tools, you know, not, not anything what we would consider a good set of tools.
I mean, good, good stuff, [00:17:00] but just not to the level that, uh, a person would want. Not like a whole shop full of tools on the other side of that wall. Exactly. Exactly. So, um, yeah, so 14, I started there, uh, left in 2000s, uh, just shy of three years. So like two, two years and 11 months or something like that, 10 months, whatever.
So, um, and then in 2017 started my own business. So that's
Gene Fetty: awesome. No problem. That's really awesome. How, how big of a help was it? Or like you said, it was, it was a big jump when you're on cars every day, all the
Jack Bucknell: time. Huge, huge. I mean, to where you do, you know, well, as many as you could do a day essentially is what it ended up becoming.
Um, you know, and I remember the first dent I fixed at the dealership when I went in there, it was a, the, you know, whatever new body style Camaro, probably a 13 or 12 or whatever. It doesn't matter. Body line dent. And this was. One of the first one body line then in the middle of a door I had fixed. And, you know, it was, it was fine for retail or for wholesale.
I mean, hope we'll back up wholesale quality. [00:18:00] It was able to sell, but, um, you know, needed work. I mean, essentially. So, I mean, we all know that wholesale work and especially starting off, there's a whole nother animal than a retail quality. So, um, and then just kept at it. I mean, you know, to where. Um, one thing, one thing I, I find even weird looking back is I didn't even drop my first headliner until I got into PDR.
I worked,
Gene Fetty: I was just talking to, uh, a former client. I don't know if a student consulted, I consulted for him. And he's like, man, I need to get better at pulling headliners. I do a lot of glue pulling on roofs because I'm afraid of headliners, not a body guy. Right. Uh, you got to learn that stuff and you got to lean into it.
I, it's so. I had headliners down soon in my career, but I remember I had Louie working for me. So and Louie started with us, I think in early 13 was the first time I ever pulled a door off of a car. I didn't even know, I like, I knew you could take a door off. But [00:19:00] I was like, man, I love the alignment. I don't know.
That's freaking me out. And my Toyota dealer had somebody back into the door of a brand new Scion. And they were like, we can't paint this car. Like if this goes to the body shop, then it gets flagged and everything like that. Uh, and they're like, can you PDR? It doesn't like. One of those like spread the cost out, just, just save this car.
We need this. And I'm looking and it was down low on the door and I'm like, I don't know. And I didn't, uh, didn't want to invest in like one of those stack door things that go on. I'm like, well, I think I could go to Lowe's and like, I pieced one together with like some anger or some brackets and some, uh, Um, insulation, um, for the, like your pipes so I can hold it.
Yeah. It basically made a stack door jack for the door and we took it off and I stood there and I fixed this thing.
I'm like,
Gene Fetty: why have I not taken doors off my whole career now? This is so easy. Now it's like, [00:20:00] Oh, door's coming off. Yep. Like, and it's not even that much work. Like it's just, I don't know if I want to bend this way to take the door off, put it on a stand.
Yep. So I feel ya. Yeah. Yeah. And
Jack Bucknell: heck anymore with a lot of the doors, they don't even have adjustment. So it's just, they're either on or, you know, they're either in the right spot or they just don't even bolt on. So like there's some of the, some of the German doors or a
Gene Fetty: set screw you just pick up and they're all plugged in.
Yeah. It's super simple. All right. So, uh, retracing our steps. Self trained at the body shop to the dealer for three years started Sioux Falls in 2017. What, uh, what drove you to leave the body shop? Cause we won't get into it, but I know from being friends that you did pretty well at the dealership. Oh yeah.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah, absolutely.
Gene Fetty: What, what made
Jack Bucknell: you Decide to take that leap
Gene Fetty: to doing your own thing.
Jack Bucknell: So, um, you know, I, I guess I'd always [00:21:00] grew up around, you know, like my dad's had his own business for since 91. Um, a lot of my family's full of entrepreneurs, you know, business owners essentially, um, and always had a little bit of a push towards that.
I think just naturally, but then also just, just wanted to, just wanted to, I don't know, I don't really know how to explain it. I mean, like I just, I felt a, uh, uh, uh, uh, a pull towards that direction of like, I can do this and I, I mean, quite, I mean, quite honest, I can do it better. Like I, I can run the business better.
I can do it than being an employee. I mean, honestly, just to be real blunt with you, um, and, um, Basically, um, probably, you know, so it was always in the back of my mind. I remember even my boss at the dealership kind of at the beginning being like, you know, yeah, you know, you can kind of like almost hinting at like, he kind of thought I might eventually leave.
Right. Maybe he even saw, I don't know, whatever. But I just remember him saying that back when, in the early days and a, um, towards about probably two, two, Little over two [00:22:00] years Basically, we had some discrepancies in changing pay structure and a few different things to where You know, we had some home run months Um, from PDR numbers specifically.
And then all of a sudden the pay structure wants to change.
Gene Fetty: Well, right. They said they were making too much money and that's it. But yeah, that, that reminds me of, uh, Dave Ramsey has a book called entre leadership. Yep. He does great book. If you haven't read it, like definitely a book recommendation. Uh, but in there he talks about pay structures and he's like, if you set up a pay structure where somebody could go make a million dollars in a year and commission You can't get mad or upset when they do it.
When they do it, you have to lean into it and let them spread their wings. And you, you actually hear that a lot. You're, you're not alone in that story where I've talked to plenty of guys who have been in a similar situation and they're doing well, and if they don't have that real burning, uh, entrepreneurial [00:23:00] spirit, they would have stayed put, but they start making money and then the employer is like, Whoa.
So we can't, this dude can't be making this kind of dollars. You're making as much
Jack Bucknell: as the manager or whatever, and they want to try to
Gene Fetty: choke you out and then they lose you and like, it's a whole, it's a whole ugly thing. So that was the push. What, what was your biggest struggle in starting your, your solo journey into PDR?
What was your biggest hurdle?
Well, that was a good one. Maybe a sec.
Dylann Jaimes: Yeah.
Jack Bucknell: Oh, uh, I don't know, man. I had a lot of support from, you know, yourself, a lot of friends, and because I'd already been going to trade shows. Stars didn't. I was going to trade shows as an employee and paying for it on my own dime. So people would see that me show up with dealership shirt on. Oh, that's pretty cool.
They sent you here. [00:24:00] No, I paid for it. Yeah. When I heard that, I was like,
Gene Fetty: what? And I know I wasn't the only one. Like what
Jack Bucknell: people, there was lot of people on your own. There were a lot of people saying that. I mean, I mean, I mean, I specifically remember TC and Cameron being like, we're gonna come there, we're flying out there, driving out there, whatever, and we're gonna pick you up and drag you and your tools outta that shop.
Right? So you could start your own thing. So, so,
Gene Fetty: so you say that you had a lot of support and you did, but you had a lot of support because you're you and you put yourself out there and. And side note, if you are looking for help, take action on the help. Yeah. Like when people offer you advice and coach you along and tell you what to do, go do it.
And that is, you're like a fricking rock star. You're like my hero. I aspire to be as good of an action taker as, as you are. Yeah. Uh, but you had that support because
Dylann Jaimes: what happened to silence your cell phones?
Gene Fetty: I put on do not disturb. That's what you should have done to
Dylann Jaimes: your phone. Shh.
Gene Fetty: Immediately. No, I didn't click the button.
[00:25:00] Amateur hour. It is amateur hour. It's my show. I can do what I want. Um, you can't fire me.
Dylann Jaimes: Fired. Let me put my jean costume on. Yeah, right.
Gene Fetty: Go check out the social media. If you want to see Dylann as me. Yeah. Or that was on Denver repair now, check out at Denver repair now on social to see Dylann as Jean for Halloween.
Please
Dylann Jaimes: follow us because I might get fired. If you don't
Jack Bucknell: legitimately busted out laughing when I saw that, I was like, you gotta be kidding me. Oh my God.
Gene Fetty: So no real big hurdles. Because you, you, you surrounded yourself with,
Jack Bucknell: I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, I went into it, you know, with, you know, you're going to have your doubts, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Um, I remember like the first couple of months, um, of being like, Oh man, what, you know, what, what am I doing? What's going on here? And quite frankly, quite frankly, it's still making good money. So like, there's not really a reason to complain, but, um, you know, just being like, Oh man, what did I do? You know, you left this.[00:26:00]
Essentially a spot where you just camped out. Cars got brought to you completely clean, dry, everything. And then, all you had to do was park them outside. And walk back in and there was 20 more cars waiting for you. I might move this. I might move this. Right? Yeah. Um, It
Gene Fetty: doesn't sound like a bad gig.
Jack Bucknell: So, Man, as far as I heard.
Dylann Jaimes: He's just that good. He's never had any hurt. No, I
Jack Bucknell: don't, don't want, no, I mean I wouldn't say that, but I mean just, I just feel really lucky that I had a lot of support and push to where there were a lot of people I could call and ask. You know, Hey, what about this? What about that? You know, what do I do for Google AdWords?
How about I was already doing videos, right? Which is pretty cool. I mean, I still have a lot of that. Who taught you how to do videos, right? Yeah, this guy right here. I mean, I, I remember, I, I still have some of, well, I mean, all the original YouTube videos are still up on my YouTube channel at Sioux Falls, Denver Repair.
Um, but I still have a lot of the raw footage that it, you know, is, you know, the unedited stuff That's really cool to go back and [00:27:00] watch and go. So, wow, that is absolutely terrible, crappy mics, crappy kit, like cell phone camera. But they were, you know, obviously, you know, a while ago and, uh, you know, holding them and jittery footage and, you know, just, well, I showed Dylann
Gene Fetty: not too long ago are my drop box of the original.
It was the PDR video course was the class we put together that you took. Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I went back and showed her the footage. Absolutely. Absolutely. And she was like, wow. And I was like, I was kind of harsh Dylann. I mean, you were angry there. Not really. We did pull it up for what it was. We did pretty good.
And then Mac and his homie, because he doesn't have a girlfriend, they're homies. Nice. Um, Went back and she, she came over and she's like, ha, ha, max showed me an old video of you and you didn't even have a beard. Oh yeah.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah. Yeah.
Gene Fetty: Not the baby gene. Yeah. So if you want to
Jack Bucknell: see baby gene, go to the dent repair.
Now YouTube it's there. The PDR nation, uh, rust corrosion protection video. [00:28:00] Uh, I remember watching that. I think it was it on a Jeep. I think,
Gene Fetty: uh, anyways,
Jack Bucknell: I just remember seeing you when I drilled a hole. Yeah. That
Gene Fetty: was on my red transit connect. Oh, okay. Okay.
Jack Bucknell: But I, dude, I, I already knew you at that time, but I was watching that in probably 17, maybe 18 when I was going through PDR nation and I could not believe it.
I was like, there's no way that's the same dude And it was the same dude. I obviously could recognize his voice and you know from It was like, yeah, that's definitely Jean and she's like, what's all the, where's all the facial hair? I don't know. I'm confused. So anyways, yeah. Yeah. It's, that's some awesome old footage going way back.
Gene Fetty: Yeah. It's pretty cool that you can go back on YouTube and see how far you've come like, and you again, you just put the reps in, you were like, Hey, I'm just going to start doing these videos and we're going to go after it. I think she's trying to pull a video up, isn't she?
Dylann Jaimes: I don't think I have the access to those folders and [00:29:00] Dropbox.
Too bad
Gene Fetty: that got deleted, huh?
Dylann Jaimes: If you deleted those, I will cry.
Gene Fetty: No, I didn't delete them. You're good.
Dylann Jaimes: Okay. But I was trying to pull them up. Oh
Gene Fetty: yeah, let's do this. So, so I would say like listeners, if you're thinking about making your move out on your own, surround yourself with good support. Find like the fact that Jack is struggling to come up with like a hurdle, because I could definitely come up with some hurdles on my side for me.
I think because you surrounded yourself, whether, whether you knew that was a good idea or just like happened into finding a good support system around you, create a support system, find people to coach you along. I personally wasted so much time and in turn money. Not surrounding myself with coaching with anything like, I never invested in myself like that until I go back a few episodes and I talk about [00:30:00] when I talk about coaching and when I paid Keith Cosentino to be my business coach, that was the first time I ever really invested in myself.
That was a big chunk of money. Oh, what? Like at the time it was a huge chunk of money. Man, the, the change that, that that made, like, it's just more, uh, evidence that, that surrounding yourself with like minded people. Or, or people that can, that have gone through and done what you're trying to do and they can fast forward your learning like that's just
Jack Bucknell: investing in yourself.
It is investing like, look, so like, okay. So one thing I could think of, like that would have been a struggle for me, it would have been like a website while I knew Dave stream. So he just, he fixed that hurdle, you know, like, um, Google AdWords, you know, talking with you, other people, specifically you, but other people about it.
You know, getting at least started getting, you know, getting, uh, you know, and then creating blog posts. I mean, I still do blog posts and stuff like that, but I used to be a lot more hands on with them. Now I have somebody write it for me and I put them on the [00:31:00] website. So, but like doing that kind of content for SEO, for search and optimization.
So like getting the top page of Google, um, you know, social media, talking with you, making videos. There's our joke
Gene Fetty: of the day over there. Where's the best place to hide?
Dylann Jaimes: A body.
Gene Fetty: Oh, a body . It's the second page of Google it. It has been messed with. Yeah. Yeah. So it is. Yeah. Where's the tampered best place to hide a body.
The second
Jack Bucknell: page of Google. I was gonna say it. Yeah. Definitely shouldn't say Yahoo. 'cause nobody uses that. Exactly. Be a good place to hide a body though. Oh yeah. Well that's true. Yeah. Yeah. That or Bing. Yeah. Bing. Search engine. Well, banks still carries like
Gene Fetty: 20% of the thing, because when you get a Microsoft pc, it's the default search engine.
And some people don't know how to change it. That's why that's the only reason it has. That's the
Jack Bucknell: only reason it has any power in the industry is because it's not preloaded onto Google's not preloaded. So
Gene Fetty: into your own business, Dylann's given us the wrap it up. Oh yeah, yeah. We're running out of time.
What does your business look like today? [00:32:00] What, are you a hail chaser? Are you a retail guy? Are you wholesale? What does, what does Jack's business look like today? What do you do?
Jack Bucknell: Um, so okay, so I've got a retail shop in Sioux Falls that I work out of with my, with my dad. Um, and so I, and I do travel. So like this month I was in Illinois, uh, for two months working, um, with you.
This year he means. Yeah, in 2024. And then a, uh, I was in, uh, the Iowa area for, uh, Uh, on and off probably about a month total. Yeah. Right around there. Spent three months on three months on the road. Um, chasing storms and working with people that I've met through networking events, through going to, um, advanced skill seminar where I met you, you know, with Billy and stuff, um, and, you know, and Dan obviously, um, and just, you know, So, I mean, yeah, I do, I do stay very busy at home and stuff, but, you know, hail money is hail money, you know, it is what it is.
Um, so, you know, you get a call and you just, you know, you go to go there and work and, you know, put in your, your time [00:33:00] and stuff. And, you know, a lot of people talk about how, Oh, it must, you know, don't get me wrong. It's nice to travel, but it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. It's not, it's not just, you know, You go there, hang out and have steak dinners every night.
No, but we
Gene Fetty: did have a good steak dinner. We did. But you know, so. But the flip side of that was six or seven days a week. Um,
Jack Bucknell: so anyway, so yeah, so I, I do travel from time to time throughout the year, probably a quarter of the year, roughly is generally about the average I would say, uh, for myself. And then, uh, when I am home, um, because I have such a good social media presence.
So again, you know, plugging social media, video content. Um, you know, and all the different platforms, um, you know, people are willing to wait for me. So they'll call and I've got a CRM system that automates, you know, all sorts of other things. But, you know, they'll wait for me to come back to town. So I'll tell them like, Hey, I'm out of town.
It'll be probably at least three weeks until I'm back. Maybe a little bit more. Yeah, that's fine. No big deal. You know, we're all driving, you know, when you're the guy. [00:34:00] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And don't get me wrong. You're not going to get every single job and that's fine. But you know, just, it is what it is.
So that's part of the. That's what happens when you go out on the road. I mean, you know, so, but then that allows me to have a little bit more time off in the winter so I can come on busy. Exactly. So we go
Gene Fetty: fishing. Yeah, absolutely. I like it. So that's cool. So there's a little bit about how Jack got to where he is today.
I'm sure that over the years, we're going to have you back on here again and do more. And talk
Jack Bucknell: me into
Gene Fetty: it. All right. That's it. Son of a bitch Jackson. So, uh, I think, uh, according to this, it is game time, baby. Uh, Dylann, uh, Dylann likes to challenge us. I crushed her the first week. I only missed one last week.
We're going to, we're going to see how we do now because I beat her ass so bad. She's like, Oh, we'll bring Jack in and see if Jack can beat you. I'm a fierce competitor, Mr. Bucknell. Same. So Dylann, tell us what, what are, what are we going to win tonight, Dylann?
Dylann Jaimes: Um, there's, there's no [00:35:00] prize. It's bragging rights.
You get bragging rights. That's all I need.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah. Yeah. Bragging rights over genes. Let's go.
Dylann Jaimes: So we're playing tech trivia. This is a new segment that we're adding to the show. So it's a trivia challenge for you to, to compete against each other.
Gene Fetty: Technician trivia or like, like, you're going to ask me questions about Apple?
Dylann Jaimes: No, I'm not going to ask you questions about Apple. I promise.
Gene Fetty: What year did the Apple computer come out? I don't know. They had a Superbowl ad. They did. It was like an iconic act.
Dylann Jaimes: Really?
Gene Fetty: Oh yeah.
Dylann Jaimes: And it's ironic because now they have the Super Bowl halftime
Gene Fetty: show. Right?
Dylann Jaimes: Pull it up, Jamie.
Gene Fetty: You're going to be Jamie.
You're going to have to be a little more involved. Pull it up,
Jack Bucknell: Jamie.
Dylann Jaimes: Listen, I'm going to get better as time goes on, you know? That's
Gene Fetty: right.
Dylann Jaimes: I'm already getting better with the slideshow thing. Yeah,
Gene Fetty: we're good. It.
Dylann Jaimes: So for the game today, I'm gonna ask you guys a question,
Gene Fetty: okay?
Dylann Jaimes: And as you can see, and for people who are watching the video, you're like, warming up over here.
Look at you stressing out. So there's a bullshit buzzer.
Gene Fetty: Yep.
Dylann Jaimes: [00:36:00] So I'm gonna ask a question. Whoever answers the question or whoever has the answer, first goes for the buter, my hand, like this, . There's gonna be multiple choices for the question. I'll read them out loud for the audio listeners, and if you get it wrong.
It goes to the next person and if they get it right, chance to steal. Yes. You get a chance to steal. Whoever has the most points or most correct answers at the end wins fracking rights.
Gene Fetty: All right.
Dylann Jaimes: I feel like it's pretty straightforward.
Gene Fetty: We're going to dinner after this. We can put a drink on it if you want.
Ooh, deal. All. There
Dylann Jaimes: you go. An old fashioned,
Jack Bucknell: how did you know? . .
Gene Fetty: Old, unpredictable. Right? And Jack? Absolutely.
Dylann Jaimes: Okay, so we are going to play. Tech Trivia! Woo! I have a whole slideshow and everything for this guys. So what is the exact name of this tool? Oh my gosh! Let me read the things off first. Little Red Riding Reaper, Little Red Ratchet Reaper, or Little Red Reaper.
I
Gene Fetty: think I [00:37:00] jumped the gun. What? I'm telling John. Little Red Reaper.
Dylann Jaimes: What is it?
Gene Fetty: Little Red Reaper. C3.
Dylann Jaimes: Wait. Jack, would you like a chance to answer this? Did I get
Jack Bucknell: it wrong? Now you got me second guessing myself, but I would say three as well. Correct, yeah. Little Red Reaper. You
Dylann Jaimes: guys both got it wrong. What?!
Little Red Ratchet Reaper. Is the product name loser. Wow. You guys both got that wrong. We're off to a good start here. Cause
Jack Bucknell: the other one doesn't have a ratchet. They have it with a ratchet. So they put ratchet in name. I didn't know that that son of a bitch. See, I told you this is, yeah,
Dylann Jaimes: I told you this was going to be harder.
Stepping up the game. Who is the world's leading manufacturer of PDR tools? Kiko, Anson, PDR, or A1 tools.
Jack Bucknell: A1 tools. Three.
Dylann Jaimes: You are correct.
Jack Bucknell: That's what I'm talking about, baby. I mean, I'm not that competitive at all. That's all [00:38:00] right. No,
Dylann Jaimes: no, no.
Jack Bucknell: I gotta read faster.
Dylann Jaimes: So how about I read off the question and the answers and then you guys can buzz.
Gene Fetty: Okay.
Dylann Jaimes: How about that? Then it's fair for everyone.
Gene Fetty: I'm not at a disadvantage here. It's fine.
Dylann Jaimes: You're just a little far
Gene Fetty: away. I can't read. No, that's good. Hold on.
Dylann Jaimes: Yeah. Let them get the clicks on.
Jack Bucknell: Oh, shit. The glasses are on baby. Let's go.
Dylann Jaimes: Not the clicks. Okay.
Jack Bucknell: We'll just do it.
Dylann Jaimes: What year did worth introduce global repair products to the market?
1992, If I missed that one, I
Gene Fetty: think I'd be in trouble. I pulled that straight from the GPR gprmasterclass. com Check it out.
Dylann Jaimes: Let's count how many times Gene can plug gprmasterclass. com
Gene Fetty: Plug PDR tool. com.
Jack Bucknell: What was that class that you were talking about
Gene Fetty: earlier? The, the, yeah, yeah. It seemed pretty cool. Yeah, it is pretty cool.
It's it's the GPR masterclass. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Jack Bucknell: [00:39:00] GPR masterclass. Ironically. Yeah. That's the website. GPR masterclass. com. Okay. I'm glad I got that right. All
Gene Fetty: right. Perfect.
Dylann Jaimes: Thank you. In Gene's training presentation, he always talks about this book, The Key to Metal Bumping. Who wrote the book? Oh, that ain't even bullshit!
That's
Jack Bucknell: bullshit! That just keeps getting better. What is it, Jack? Is it three? It's three. You
Dylann Jaimes: are correct. Yeah,
Gene Fetty: baby! I have
Dylann Jaimes: not read that book,
Jack Bucknell: by the way. It's a good book. Yeah.
Dylann Jaimes: It's on Amazon. I'll link it.
Gene Fetty: Oh really? Yeah. That's a good book. That's going back to like the dording. com days. Very early in my career.
What
Dylann Jaimes: are the Kiko 6Cs? Backwards.
Gene Fetty: Oh Jesus.
Dylann Jaimes: Backwards.
Gene Fetty: Continue. Correct.
Dylann Jaimes: It's on the screen. Oh, I can look. Nope.
Gene Fetty: Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Take it down. Take it off. That's [00:40:00] fine. That's fine. Continue. Correct. Clean. No coat clean.
Jack Bucknell: Choose check.
Dylann Jaimes: You got
Jack Bucknell: it. Nice. I would not have gotten that. I
Dylann Jaimes: had to make you think on that one.
Gene Fetty: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was good.
Jack Bucknell: I like that you put it backwards.
Dylann Jaimes: He like immediately buzzed it on like backwards. Okay.
Gene Fetty: I was like, man, you set Jack up for failure.
Dylann Jaimes: So what's the score right now? So
Gene Fetty: two, two,
Dylann Jaimes: two, two. All right. Oh, wait. Yeah, I think there's one more app. Oh my gosh. What? Let me read the question first. What is the difference between OEM and LKQ and what do they stand for? So you have to answer both parts of this question.
Gene Fetty: So the difference.
Dylann Jaimes: Well, what do they stand for first?
Gene Fetty: Well, no. For our audience. OEM is original equipment [00:41:00] manufacturer.
Dylann Jaimes: Okay. Okay.
Gene Fetty: LKQ is of like kind and quality. So the difference is OEM original manufacturer is directly from the manufacturer and it has never been installed on a car. It is brand new from the people that built the car.
LKQ
Gene Fetty: like kind and quality is generally speaking about a recycled, which makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about the part, but it's just a junkyard part.
That is of like kind and quality, which means it's made out of the same metal probably, and it's kind of maybe okay the same. And if we're talking about aftermarket, uh, that could be, uh, of like kind and quality, but that's not gonna be the same metal. The, the panels may not even weigh the same. Um, and, and with the LKQ, the like kind and quality, the used parts.
Uh, need to [00:42:00] be reconditioned properly. If you're going to use them and you should also check part of the Kiko six C's, it would be the last one I mentioned, which is actually the first one to follow OEM procedures. Some OEMs do not even recommend or allow the use of recycled parts on their vehicles. Most of, I don't think, yeah, right.
Yeah.
Jack Bucknell: Yup. And oftentimes, uh, another loophole on that is people, uh, certain, uh, companies, I'll just leave it at that. We'll state that those parts are not recyclable. Parts are certified. They often get de certified monthly. So note to self for people that are like, Oh no, the parts are certified. Well, they're certified by their own in house.
So that's conflict of interest and they get de certified. So now what you're, you're going to call the customer three months later and tell them, Hey, your certified fender is not certified and will now not crap, not pass crash test, safety standards and airbag and affects airbag deployment. So note to self.
OEM all the way, 100 percent of the time.
Dylann Jaimes: Thank you for that information, guys. I wasn't expecting all [00:43:00] that. And
Jack Bucknell: it's like we're nerds or something about this stuff. Just a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.
Dylann Jaimes: Almost dent nerds?
Gene Fetty: Almost. Wow, that dent nerd right there. Dent nerds! Let's go! I've not been on the dent nerds podcast.
Jack Bucknell (2): Huh.
Gene Fetty: Not yet.
Jack Bucknell: Make it happen. Next week. Make some calls. You know a guy? Yeah, I know a guy. All right.
Dylann Jaimes: So, fun fact about this question is Dave Fisher actually helped me come up with this question and he tailored it for Jack.
Gene Fetty: Huh. Smoked his ass.
Jack Bucknell: I was just too slow on hitting that damn button. You gotta read faster, buddy.
You gotta, like,
Dylann Jaimes: scooch it closer to you. Loser. Loser.
Jack Bucknell: This
Dylann Jaimes: was my favorite on the bottom here.
Jack Bucknell: There's no equipment manufacturing likeness, kind of quality. That's kind of very accurate. Kind of quality. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Uh, you could put a garbage truck next to it as well. So same thing.
Dylann Jaimes: I think this is the last question. [00:44:00]
Gene Fetty: You know, you didn't read the question. Oh, I'm so
Dylann Jaimes: sorry. Which Japanese car manufacturer is known for its reliability and fuel efficiency and often uses the slogan daring to dream Toyota, Honda, Nissan, or Subaru. Jack, I believe you buzzed.
Jack Bucknell: Uh, yeah, two Honda.
Dylann Jaimes: Damn Jack, you got it.
Yeah. All right.
Jack Bucknell: So
Gene Fetty: which of those companies. Is actually the parent company is Fuji heavy industries. The camera company, like the Fuji. Well, maybe, I don't know if it
Jack Bucknell: could be
Gene Fetty: the same.
Jack Bucknell: I don't speak Japanese, dude. Oh, what, what you speak Japanese? No, no, I'm not that good. Did you quit
Dylann Jaimes: duo? Yeah,
Jack Bucknell: I totally did.
I totally didn't stick with it. Oh, dude. It's difficult as hell to learn another foreign language and then Japanese on top of it. Hey,
Gene Fetty: Fuji Heavy Industries, who is it?[00:45:00]
Jack Bucknell: What were the choices? It's not Honda.
Gene Fetty: Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Subaru.
Jack Bucknell: I would say Toyota. Subaru. Fuck! Nah, yeah.
Gene Fetty: Really? Yeah. Huh. Next time you look at their VIN sticker, it'll say Fuji Heavy Industries.
Dylann Jaimes: Really?
Gene Fetty: Okay. Huh. Yeah.
Dylann Jaimes: That was, that was all the question anyways. I didn't
Gene Fetty: really get a point. So what's the score?
Dylann Jaimes: I think you guys were tied.
Gene Fetty: We just have to tie, so we need a tie
Dylann Jaimes: breaker.
Guess Need. What's a tie breaker? I guess we just need, what's a tie breaker? Guess
Jack Bucknell: we both get a drink. Guess. Yeah. First world problems. . Yeah. Oh no. What? Shame.
Gene Fetty: Yeah. All right. Yeah, I guess that's it. So, uh, so speaking of Japanese. Jack, where are you headed next month? All right. So next month,
Jack Bucknell: uh, I'm headed to Japan with a bunch of the dent family people, all that jazz.
Uh, so I'm going to talk about, so [00:46:00] it's I a S R E. I want to make sure I got that right. Um, it's December 14th and 15th in Osaka, Japan. So, um, basically a bunch of, so the last one they did was in 20. I mean, 19, 19, 19. Yeah. I went to go 2020 and the world shut down. So I couldn't go. Um, anyway, so this would be my first time over in outside of the, other than Mexico, first time out of the country.
And plus that's true for a lot of us dent people. Um, so going over there for 12 days total, um, work related fully. Um, yeah, it's full write off. Uh, um, so going to Tokyo, Osaka and, uh, uh, Potentially Hiroshima and Kyoto, so. Way cool.
Gene Fetty: It's going to be an awesome trip.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah, I'm really excited for it. Um, so like I said, it's 14th, 15th of December.
Um, a bunch of American manufacturers going to be over there.
Gene Fetty: Yeah, the U. S. is going to have a strong presence. Very, very strong presence. For sure. Yep, yep.
Jack Bucknell: I know like, um, [00:47:00] you know, Is A1 having a booth there? I don't know if they're having a booth. So I know like Dent Reaper will be there, Dent Maid will be there, Get a Grip will be there.
Anson. Anson will be there, Kiko will be there. Um, so it's going to be a pretty big, or do I know a bunch of the Dent Craft girls are going to be there? I don't know if Dent Craft himself, probably. Um, and, It's going to be a blast. I'm just ridiculously excited. So I
Gene Fetty: would say if you want more information about that, Google it, or look up our friend Igor.
Dylann Jaimes: I was just about to say.
Gene Fetty: We can maybe put his social media handle in the notes.
Dylann Jaimes: He also has groups on Facebook for this event for both vendors and attendees. He's going to be sending out information to make it easier to get
Jack Bucknell: around. Yeah. I do remember you saying that. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a bunch of chat groups and stuff.
And then I've been talking with him personally on it and he's got a laundry load list of stuff to do. Like a bunch of us are getting, it's going to be a big mob of dent people. Yes. You know?
Gene Fetty: Yeah. That's going to be a great trip. Absolutely. And then, so next [00:48:00] thing to plug is next weekend. Uh, well, yeah, it'll still be next weekend.
If you listen to this Monday, uh, the November 16th is the dense for kids and Dixon, Tennessee, uh, with Andy and Amanda Patrick of dapper dent repair. Uh, that goes from 9. AM to two, uh, every 25 worth of cash donations or, uh, new toys, uh, gets you a ticket into the tool raffle. Jack, that's all raffle is like fire.
I'm going to win huge. My goal is to win the carbon tech. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's good. That's a really good one. Do you need
Dylann Jaimes: another carbon? Whoa, whoa,
Jack Bucknell: whoa, whoa. What kind of question is that?
Dylann Jaimes: Who's this?
Gene Fetty: Yeah. She just started. Yeah, you're fired. She just finished. You mean you're done here immediately? No. Uh, anyways, uh, if you're interested in that, uh, you can reach Andy or Amanda on [00:49:00] social, uh, and you can always catch them through catch Andy through the ginger bros podcast, if you're not friends with Andy and you need to message in for sure, uh, you can find us on social media at.
Auto Appearance Institute on all channels. Jack, where can they find you on social?
Jack Bucknell: So, I'm on all the platforms. Uh, Sioux Falls Dent Repair, um, essentially straight across the board. I think the only thing that's different is Twitter. X is Sioux Falls Dent. Um, and yeah, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook.
Whatever else I can't remember. Everywhere, all over the place. Be real. Sioux is S I O U X. Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah. S I O U X Falls. I'll put it up on the screen. Perfect. Yeah. Also, quick
Dylann Jaimes: question about Twitter slash X. Do you get a lot of traction on there?
Jack Bucknell: No.
Dylann Jaimes: Do you find that it's like worth being?
Gene Fetty: No, it's great for news.
We are at Denver for now on
Jack Bucknell: X. Yep. But I couldn't tell you the last time I posted there. I mean, even like Instagram, I'm [00:50:00] pretty heavy on there. And I've only had. Well, I've had my Instagram account hacked once, so I had to start over, but I think I've only gotten maybe a handful of calls that people specifically tell you Instagram.
Obviously they can see it and then get your website. And then they're like, Oh, I saw you online. Like, well, where? So it's hard to track that kind of stuff sometimes. But, um, yeah, it's, but it's just another avenue for people to find you. So we get good traction
Gene Fetty: on our Instagram specifically through shout out.
Steel city cars in that the, the cars and coffee style event that we sponsor. We get, we catch a lot of traction through there because that, that scene is very heavy on the gram. So we do it for the gram.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah. Yeah. We, we, uh, I actually just went to my first local Sioux falls cars and coffee at the Subaru dealership this year.
Could not believe how big it was. Cool cars, very cool people. And just. Flooded with people. I mean, I couldn't believe how big it was. I would strongly
Gene Fetty: recommend, great business tip. Yes. Just not in Pittsburgh. [00:51:00] Back off, bitches. Or Sioux Falls. We'll fight you. Or Sioux Falls. Get it, get involved with them and, and see if there's a sponsorship opportunity of some sort.
It's the right, for PDR, speaking to PDR businesses here, it's the right customers. It's not a car show. Yep. Where you get a bunch of trailer queens that, that just simply don't get dented. Yep. Yep. Yep. Uh, it is, you have people driving, you have drivers, we have everything from jalopies to Lambos and everything in between.
Um, these people are driving their cars, they're car enthusiasts, and even if they're not getting damage on their, their sweet cars and coffee car, they're not driving a junker, man. They've got another nice daily that they do care about. We do a lot of business through that event and it's a cool, um, uh, event.
Culture to be a part of the car scene here is awesome. So many great people. We've made some, some really new, great friends through it. Strongly advise. Shout out rad
Dylann Jaimes: photography and tuna. No crust.
Gene Fetty: Yeah. Yeah. Tuna. No
Jack Bucknell: crust. Yeah.
Gene Fetty: [00:52:00] Tuna. No crust. That's it. That's Angela. He's Mr. Steel city cars. Nice. I like the name.
Um, so, uh, make sure you're following us on social, make sure you are following Jack on social. Uh, he puts out great content. Yeah. Um, and you can always find us at autoappearanceinstitute. com. And if you want to learn how to glue, pull
Dylann Jaimes: GBRmasterclass. com.
Gene Fetty: Yes. Uh, and, uh, we will be rescheduling that in person glue pull collision training here in Pittsburgh, uh, for sometime in December.
So, uh, what was set for the 22nd, it's a family stuff come up, got to move it to December, uh, new date coming soon. So keep an eye out. I think we have an email list they can sign up on.
Dylann Jaimes: Yes. It should be on that landing page, which
Gene Fetty: is Pull it up. Blue
Dylann Jaimes: pool training. com.
Gene Fetty: Blue pool training. com for that. You can sign up there.
So Jack, thanks for coming out. Thanks for being on the show. Getting a little insight [00:53:00] into how Jack got here today.
Jack Bucknell: Yeah, it's the first time I've been in the shop, in the studio. This is absolutely beautiful. Fantastic. Happy to be here. So awesome. Thank you very much for having me on the show. Appreciate it.
So
Gene Fetty: awesome. Cool. Well guys, thanks so much. We will
Jack Bucknell: catch you on the next episode.
Dylann Jaimes: Bye.
